Justin Lee repeats something I’ve now heard quite a bit: anti-woman white supremacist Nick Fuentes is bad, but his fans (called “groypers”) need to be listened to and taken very seriously.
"And it needs to see young men as potential husbands, fathers, pastors, elders, statesmen, and leaders—not just victims." As an older "husband, father, pastor, elder and I hope statemen and leader"...I agree. Our country needs you...
To your point about how long guys like Nick Fuentes have been around, in the early 2010s, whenever I read sonething from the manosphere critiquing feminism (Aaron Clary, et al.), I came away with two thoughts:
1. If I have a daughter, I don't want her to be like the women this article/post is talking about.
2. If I have a daughter, I don't want her to marry someone like the writer of this article or his commenter.
And yes, there is a definite trend towards "believe things because they trigger the libs" rather than "believe things because they are true."
However, I would hesitate to attribute a lot of influence to 4chan back in the day--they were pretty notorious on the Internet, but their influence on the outside world was pretty limited.
"If you’re trying to help young, conservative men reject progressive ideology and reclaim a healthy purpose and maturity to their lives, the best course is not to send them “based” articles and videos. It’s to try as best as possible to extract them out of the places they’re likely to find them." Well said, Samuel. Been thinking about this quite a bit.
This is really good and is what I’ve been wanting to say to too many young men I see today (I’m 60). You are not a victim unless you agree to be such.
Very insightful work. Great food for thought.
"And it needs to see young men as potential husbands, fathers, pastors, elders, statesmen, and leaders—not just victims." As an older "husband, father, pastor, elder and I hope statemen and leader"...I agree. Our country needs you...
To your point about how long guys like Nick Fuentes have been around, in the early 2010s, whenever I read sonething from the manosphere critiquing feminism (Aaron Clary, et al.), I came away with two thoughts:
1. If I have a daughter, I don't want her to be like the women this article/post is talking about.
2. If I have a daughter, I don't want her to marry someone like the writer of this article or his commenter.
And yes, there is a definite trend towards "believe things because they trigger the libs" rather than "believe things because they are true."
However, I would hesitate to attribute a lot of influence to 4chan back in the day--they were pretty notorious on the Internet, but their influence on the outside world was pretty limited.
"If you’re trying to help young, conservative men reject progressive ideology and reclaim a healthy purpose and maturity to their lives, the best course is not to send them “based” articles and videos. It’s to try as best as possible to extract them out of the places they’re likely to find them." Well said, Samuel. Been thinking about this quite a bit.